[00:00:00] The studio was empty for a year.
[00:00:02] >> Wow.
[00:00:02] >> It was really scary. Like I didn't know
[00:00:04] what I was going to be.
[00:00:05] >> Wow, a complete year?
[00:00:06] >> A year. So I had to recreate myself and
[00:00:09] come up with ideas of how I was going to
[00:00:11] keep money coming in.
[00:00:24] >> Hi, this is Kirk. I'm with uh Trina
[00:00:26] Chaney who and she's a creative
[00:00:28] entrepreneur, visionary, builder, and
[00:00:30] long-time force in the luxury event and
[00:00:33] experience space. She had a 13-year
[00:00:36] career in Miami's hospitality and
[00:00:38] tourism industry and she relocated to
[00:00:40] Palm Beach in 2002 and founded the
[00:00:43] Planning Company, a luxury event
[00:00:45] planning and design firm that has since
[00:00:47] produced countless high-end celebrations
[00:00:48] across South Florida and worldwide
[00:00:50] destination events. As her production
[00:00:52] team grew, so did the need for space and
[00:00:54] the practical need sparked a bigger
[00:00:56] vision. She began a shared workspace for
[00:00:59] her team that evolved into the Studio
[00:01:02] 1016, a 7,000 sq ft industrial chic
[00:01:06] creative warehouse designed as a
[00:01:08] collaborative home base for
[00:01:10] entrepreneurs, creators, business
[00:01:11] owners. Today, more than 120 members
[00:01:13] call the Studio's 1016 their
[00:01:15] professional creative hub. We're here
[00:01:17] today doing this recording. She
[00:01:19] approaches life with a curiosity and
[00:01:21] humor, often saying that she's not sure
[00:01:24] what she needs to be when she grows up.
[00:01:26] At her core, she's fearless approach for
[00:01:28] growth, her willingness to leap into the
[00:01:29] unknown, and ability to turn blank
[00:01:31] slates into thriving ecosystems. So here
[00:01:34] we are. I just wanted to have her here
[00:01:36] because I thought I've been recording
[00:01:38] here for a few sessions and I thought
[00:01:39] it'd be really cool to find out who's
[00:01:41] the person behind the space.
[00:01:44] >> I'm an event planner of 25 years and we
[00:01:47] kept outgrowing our space, basically.
[00:01:50] So I found this space. It was very empty
[00:01:53] and ugly and it smelled terrible. But it
[00:01:56] had a lot of space and we needed
[00:01:57] production space.
[00:01:58] >> smell terrible anymore.
[00:01:59] >> No, it didn't. It doesn't now. But, we
[00:02:01] needed space to have all of our
[00:02:03] inventory housed and to be able to
[00:02:05] produce florals and different things for
[00:02:07] events that we need to do. So, for
[00:02:09] example, when we'd have a wedding for
[00:02:11] 300 people, we'd have to produce
[00:02:14] 200 big bags like this, you know, filled
[00:02:17] with waters and towels and chocolates
[00:02:19] and whatever. So, we need to produce
[00:02:21] those somewhere. And when we do flowers,
[00:02:24] we need to do 20 huge floral
[00:02:26] centerpieces and have a place to
[00:02:28] refrigerate flowers. So, in the back of
[00:02:31] the studio, I still have a commercial
[00:02:33] refrigerator and all the stuff I need to
[00:02:35] produce, but my inventory is offsite
[00:02:37] because I kept outgrowing the space as
[00:02:40] people kept wanting to come here and
[00:02:42] work here. I said no for the first 8
[00:02:44] months. I didn't want anyone working
[00:02:46] here. That wasn't the plan. And then,
[00:02:48] the bills kept coming, so I decided that
[00:02:50] maybe I'd let a couple people work here
[00:02:53] and see how it went. And it just kept
[00:02:55] growing into more and more work space.
[00:02:58] Um I built 10 partition walls
[00:03:02] that I ended up I had to keep moving
[00:03:04] them back back back back and putting
[00:03:06] more desks and build more offices
[00:03:08] because that paid the bills. You know,
[00:03:10] that was like bread and butter. And
[00:03:11] then, after like a year and a half or 2
[00:03:14] years, I decided I created this thing. I
[00:03:17] didn't know it was called coworking or
[00:03:19] shared workspace, but I knew I invented
[00:03:20] something.
[00:03:22] I had never heard of WeWork back then.
[00:03:24] If I did, I would know that I didn't
[00:03:26] create coworking, but we were the first
[00:03:29] um coworking space in West Palm Beach.
[00:03:31] So, clearly we were ahead of our times
[00:03:33] and we had something going that we
[00:03:35] thought was really cool and we figured
[00:03:36] out that coworking was a word. And it
[00:03:38] took a lot of people a long time to
[00:03:40] catch on to that. Back then, it wasn't
[00:03:41] really uh people just weren't aware.
[00:03:44] Even like the city didn't know how to
[00:03:46] handle us with a lot of things. We're
[00:03:47] like a gray area. We still are a gray
[00:03:49] area because we are a space,
[00:03:52] you know, with membership, we don't
[00:03:54] sublease space. We have memberships and
[00:03:56] we have people who use our space, you
[00:03:58] know, like by the hour, by the day, by
[00:04:00] the month, whatever. So, it's a little
[00:04:02] bit like like a gym kind of. You know,
[00:04:04] with memberships. So, that's how I I
[00:04:06] convey that to people who don't
[00:04:07] understand what we do. So, I'm like,
[00:04:10] it's kind of like a gym. You know, you
[00:04:12] rent a space or you rent a membership
[00:04:13] that has certain different levels to it,
[00:04:16] but you can also rent an office
[00:04:17] long-term. We just call it a membership.
[00:04:20] By having memberships, um that just puts
[00:04:22] me in a different category of business,
[00:04:24] which allows me certain things, certain
[00:04:26] liberties, and on other things it's a
[00:04:28] little bit more complicated. Um but
[00:04:30] every business has pros and cons.
[00:04:33] >> Sure.
[00:04:33] >> So, I just found it's like the best way
[00:04:36] for me to handle things is having a
[00:04:37] membership-driven business. And at the
[00:04:39] core of my business here as Studio 1016,
[00:04:43] the most important thing to me is to
[00:04:44] stay creative and not be like a cubicle
[00:04:47] space. I'm not a buttoned-up space. I'm
[00:04:49] not a space that where every single
[00:04:51] office looks the same. We're not a space
[00:04:53] that's quiet. We have quiet spaces
[00:04:55] within our space, but we're a space that
[00:04:58] you know, has movement and noise and fun
[00:05:01] and music and ping pong and
[00:05:04] >> soccer
[00:05:05] >> soccer upstairs. Yeah. There's all kinds
[00:05:07] of Yeah,
[00:05:08] all kinds of cool things going on that
[00:05:10] we have to work around, but we we
[00:05:12] figured out a flow somehow.
[00:05:14] And then the other thing behind, you
[00:05:16] know, the main piece of my business is
[00:05:18] still being able to do events. So, right
[00:05:20] now we're loading in for a 250-person
[00:05:23] event for Tuesday.
[00:05:24] >> Oh, wow.
[00:05:25] >> Yeah, so at
[00:05:26] >> That's what the balloon's for?
[00:05:27] >> Mhm. Yeah, I'm measuring the wall to do
[00:05:29] an installation. So, my event business
[00:05:33] thrives outside of here and in inside of
[00:05:35] here.
[00:05:36] So, the expertise in that field has
[00:05:39] crossed over to what I've created here.
[00:05:42] So, it keeps me excited because I don't
[00:05:44] want to just rent offices. I like to do
[00:05:46] different things. Yeah.
[00:05:48] So
[00:05:48] >> like the photo studio for example, last
[00:05:50] weekend we had a yoga retreat. So people
[00:05:53] flew in from out of state. We had 25
[00:05:56] people here Friday, Saturday, Sunday all
[00:05:58] day. We shuttled them back and forth
[00:05:59] like to the beach on the island, did you
[00:06:02] know tours with them. We had food and
[00:06:03] beverage service in the studio. They had
[00:06:05] something in the tea house and then they
[00:06:07] had their
[00:06:08] >> So they had they were here in this room?
[00:06:10] >> Yeah, and they did their yoga sessions
[00:06:11] in here and they made it into hot yoga.
[00:06:13] We shut the vents, we put in heaters, we
[00:06:16] closed up the vent on the door,
[00:06:17] transformed the space. So
[00:06:19] >> Wow, that's really cool.
[00:06:20] >> Mhm. So it it keeps things exciting and
[00:06:23] that's what I like about the studio so.
[00:06:25] >> So where did where did they just cuz
[00:06:27] there's a hotel just around the corner,
[00:06:28] right?
[00:06:29] >> There's hotels everywhere.
[00:06:30] >> Cuz we're downtown West Palm Beach. I
[00:06:32] mean
[00:06:32] >> Yeah, they stayed at Airbnbs and hotels.
[00:06:34] They were different places.
[00:06:35] >> were different places.
[00:06:36] >> Yeah, because some people like the Ben
[00:06:38] and some people like the Hyatt and some
[00:06:40] people like Marriott and some people
[00:06:41] stay with a friend, you know, so they
[00:06:44] were all over.
[00:06:45] >> All over and they came here and they had
[00:06:46] a central place that they could meet up.
[00:06:49] >> We hopped on a shuttle. They had a
[00:06:50] really great shuttle service that we
[00:06:52] hired and it took them on a tour.
[00:06:54] >> So did did your event company do that?
[00:06:58] >> Yeah.
[00:06:58] >> Okay.
[00:06:59] >> Yep. So and then they did meditation at
[00:07:00] the beach. We had catering service on
[00:07:03] the shuttle.
[00:07:03] >> This is a paid yoga retreat and then
[00:07:06] your organization helped organize it.
[00:07:09] >> Right.
[00:07:09] >> So it ran smooth.
[00:07:10] >> Correct. And they rented my space from
[00:07:12] the studio.
[00:07:13] >> Mhm.
[00:07:14] >> So there's some kind of planning help
[00:07:17] that we give in general just because
[00:07:18] that's my nature. But if somebody wants
[00:07:20] us to organize their whole event like
[00:07:22] this corporate group has never been
[00:07:24] here. The one that's coming on Tuesday
[00:07:25] for 250 people, they've never been here
[00:07:27] before. So they hired my planning
[00:07:29] business to coordinate the whole entire
[00:07:31] event. So we hired all the vendors, we
[00:07:33] planned the design with them
[00:07:35] incorporating some of our furnishings
[00:07:37] and adding other things to create like a
[00:07:39] disco tropical event. We're bringing in
[00:07:42] alpaca, taco truck, portable restroom
[00:07:45] trailers, luxury restroom trailers, a
[00:07:48] cigar lounge outside an airstream, just
[00:07:50] all kinds of fun things, so
[00:07:52] >> So I had a a friend of mine, um, I don't
[00:07:55] think she does anymore. What was her
[00:07:56] name? Um, Teresa. She's a competitor of
[00:07:59] yours.
[00:08:00] >> Okay.
[00:08:01] >> But I remember
[00:08:02] I hired her for my daughter's
[00:08:03] quinceañera.
[00:08:04] >> Okay.
[00:08:05] >> And she just completely
[00:08:08] transformed
[00:08:09] We were had it at our clubhouse
[00:08:11] >> Okay. Mhm.
[00:08:12] >> and it was just
[00:08:14] it was amazing.
[00:08:15] >> Nice.
[00:08:16] >> Just completely, you know, brought in
[00:08:17] uplights, brought in plants and this and
[00:08:20] that and, you know, the entire space was
[00:08:23] transformed and actually, I guess she
[00:08:26] just she didn't deal with the billing. I
[00:08:27] guess she found like a DJ and then she
[00:08:30] was curious what your thoughts on this.
[00:08:31] She was just cuz she's a friend of mine,
[00:08:33] she's like, "You have to have an MC." I
[00:08:35] go, "Well, isn't that the job of the
[00:08:37] DJ?" She's like, "No."
[00:08:38] >> No, it isn't.
[00:08:39] No.
[00:08:41] Some DJs
[00:08:42] >> the music.
[00:08:43] >> Yes.
[00:08:43] >> And the MC is to keep the party going.
[00:08:47] >> And some DJs don't speak. And some DJs
[00:08:50] you don't want them to speak either.
[00:08:51] >> And you don't want them to speak.
[00:08:54] >> So that's the, you know, that's the
[00:08:55] value of having a planner.
[00:08:58] >> that So I have a little bit of
[00:08:59] experience with hiring a planner and
[00:09:02] wow, it's just, you know, and she's
[00:09:04] running around
[00:09:06] taking care of stuff that frankly, I
[00:09:08] guess she probably like you, taking care
[00:09:11] of stuff that she's probably not even
[00:09:13] really supposed to be taking care of.
[00:09:14] >> Yeah, it goes above and beyond usually.
[00:09:16] >> Um, but it just the the party went
[00:09:18] without a hitch. Um
[00:09:20] >> That's awesome.
[00:09:20] >> and we had a really great time.
[00:09:23] >> So for example, like when you came out
[00:09:25] to get me just now, I was measuring a
[00:09:26] balloon.
[00:09:27] >> Mhm.
[00:09:27] >> Something really simple, but the balloon
[00:09:29] says 18 in.
[00:09:31] But when you blow it up, it's not 18 in.
[00:09:34] So I need to make sure it's going to go
[00:09:35] wall to wall.
[00:09:36] >> Right. If it's a wall
[00:09:38] >> Right. And you don't want to have a gap
[00:09:40] because
[00:09:40] >> 1 or 2 in per balloon
[00:09:43] multiplies really fast when it's an
[00:09:45] entire wall.
[00:09:46] >> So, you have to try things and see how
[00:09:48] things work in a specific space because
[00:09:50] just because it works here on this
[00:09:52] cinder block wall doesn't mean it'll
[00:09:54] work on the drywall without damaging it.
[00:09:56] So, it's a lot of like trial and error
[00:09:58] stuff.
[00:09:59] >> Pre-planning and having the plan for
[00:10:01] everything.
[00:10:02] >> Mhm.
[00:10:02] >> Interesting. I had no idea that that was
[00:10:04] another part of So, that was like what
[00:10:05] spurred this whole space.
[00:10:07] >> Yes. I've been with The planning
[00:10:09] company's been in existence 25 years
[00:10:11] now.
[00:10:12] >> Oh, wow.
[00:10:12] >> Yeah. And so, we do destination work. I
[00:10:14] don't do as much local event work as I
[00:10:17] used to. I used to work at The Breakers
[00:10:19] a lot, Mar-a-Lago, really high-end
[00:10:21] weddings and different celebrations. So,
[00:10:23] now for the past Well, since COVID,
[00:10:26] probably, we do more destination work.
[00:10:28] >> More destination work. Okay. Yeah.
[00:10:30] >> Yeah. It's more interesting to me. It's
[00:10:32] my passion. I like to travel a lot, so
[00:10:34] I'd rather do one or two really great
[00:10:37] projects a year. Or, you know, could be
[00:10:39] five.
[00:10:39] >> you focus on destination work, is it
[00:10:41] destination to West Palm Beach or
[00:10:42] destination in general? Could be
[00:10:44] anywhere.
[00:10:45] >> It could be anywhere. I prefer to go
[00:10:46] somewhere else.
[00:10:47] >> Mhm.
[00:10:47] >> But, there's a lot of people who come
[00:10:49] here and this is a destination like this
[00:10:51] corporate group.
[00:10:51] >> Right. Or the yoga group is also a
[00:10:53] destination.
[00:10:55] >> It's smaller, but it is a destination.
[00:10:56] So, those things don't count in my big
[00:10:58] two projects for the year.
[00:11:00] >> I have an idea for a project that we're
[00:11:01] going to have to talk about.
[00:11:02] >> Okay. All right. So, the yoga retreat,
[00:11:05] the lady who was who was organizing that
[00:11:07] was really impressed with how this all
[00:11:09] went, and she was really excited. So,
[00:11:10] she said, "You know, I really like to
[00:11:12] repeat this every quarter and make this
[00:11:14] the base for it." And then we talked
[00:11:16] about my favorite place in the planet,
[00:11:18] which is in Guatemala. It's called Lake
[00:11:20] Atitlán. And they have a big like yoga
[00:11:23] following there.
[00:11:24] >> Mhm.
[00:11:24] >> And I was telling her one of my visions
[00:11:27] for the future was to start creating
[00:11:29] retreats to go to Lake Atitlán and
[00:11:31] reset. Whether you're into yoga or not,
[00:11:33] has nothing to do with yoga. So, it's an
[00:11:35] it's called a line. It's a retreat that
[00:11:37] I'm putting together. And part of it
[00:11:39] will be to, you know, bring a yoga
[00:11:41] instructor with me and, you know, bring
[00:11:43] different people with me, but I'm the
[00:11:45] one orchestrating the whole retreat. And
[00:11:46] it's for people to realign yourself.
[00:11:48] Whether it's, you know, mentally,
[00:11:50] physically, whether you are a yogi, it
[00:11:52] could be all of the above. You can take
[00:11:54] whatever piece from it that you want,
[00:11:56] but basically it's tapping out from
[00:11:58] whatever you normally do
[00:11:59] >> Mhm.
[00:12:00] >> and resetting. Because when I go there,
[00:12:02] that's what I go there to do. And it's
[00:12:03] really amazing there. Um I started to
[00:12:06] put it together during COVID because I
[00:12:08] felt like people needed to align. We
[00:12:09] didn't know what was happening. We all
[00:12:11] This place was empty. The planning
[00:12:13] company, there was no gathering, there
[00:12:15] were no events, there was no travel. So,
[00:12:17] that was like dead. The studio was empty
[00:12:19] for a year.
[00:12:20] >> Wow.
[00:12:21] >> It was really scary. Like I didn't know
[00:12:23] what I was going to be.
[00:12:24] >> a complete year?
[00:12:25] >> A year.
[00:12:26] So, I had to recreate myself and come up
[00:12:28] with ideas of how I was going to keep
[00:12:30] money coming in. So, what value could I
[00:12:32] give people who didn't want to come here
[00:12:34] and work anymore because they're scared
[00:12:35] to gather and they couldn't gather for a
[00:12:37] certain period of time. So, I created a
[00:12:39] lot of virtual services for people. I
[00:12:41] would physically be here all the time
[00:12:43] because my staff had to go and I would
[00:12:45] receive packages or mail. I'd open them
[00:12:47] up. I'd send them pictures. You know, if
[00:12:50] they needed to deliver something to
[00:12:52] someone, I would go do it and
[00:12:53] communicate with that person that it was
[00:12:55] on their step and make sure I sat in the
[00:12:56] car and waited to see that they got
[00:12:58] whatever they needed or somebody needed
[00:13:01] something notarized. So, I started a
[00:13:02] mobile notary concierge service. So, we
[00:13:04] still have that service available, but
[00:13:06] that was all like stuff I did to survive
[00:13:08] during COVID. And during that my
[00:13:10] downtime when I had to be here, I
[00:13:13] created the align retreat because I'm
[00:13:15] like, when this is over
[00:13:17] >> Right.
[00:13:17] >> we all need to like align ourselves
[00:13:19] again and tap out and just kind of tap
[00:13:22] in, get reconnected with who we are,
[00:13:24] what we want to do and what we need to
[00:13:25] fill our cup because we're all just
[00:13:27] really stressed. And I didn't haven't
[00:13:29] put that into action yet because after
[00:13:31] things started coming back together, I
[00:13:33] needed to do a lot of work here and stay
[00:13:35] on the ground. So now I'm kind of ready
[00:13:37] to put that together. So that connection
[00:13:39] with the person who came here for the
[00:13:40] yoga retreat, she's like, I want to do
[00:13:42] that with you. I want to be your yoga
[00:13:44] person. So now we're talking about that.
[00:13:46] So things just kind of feed off of each
[00:13:48] other.
[00:13:48] >> What's the size of a retreat like that
[00:13:51] need to be to be at the same time
[00:13:54] effective
[00:13:56] so that each person gets the attention
[00:13:58] they need but at the same time, you
[00:13:59] know, you probably
[00:14:01] if you were only had five people, it'd
[00:14:03] be priced pretty extravagant.
[00:14:05] >> For me, it's more of a passion project
[00:14:07] than a money-making thing.
[00:14:09] Um
[00:14:10] >> Well, it still needs to cover its cost
[00:14:12] though.
[00:14:12] >> It needs to cover its cost but people
[00:14:13] would cover their costs in general. Um
[00:14:17] and I would have to just figure out my
[00:14:18] costs for the organizing part and the
[00:14:20] rest of it would be
[00:14:21] >> And do you envision this being like 10
[00:14:23] people, 25 people, 100 people?
[00:14:26] >> Not 100. Um under 40.
[00:14:28] >> Under 40. That's kind of what I was
[00:14:29] getting like like yeah, you know, cuz
[00:14:31] you just said you're doing an event. You
[00:14:33] obviously have the experience, you can
[00:14:34] handle it. You could have 250, probably
[00:14:36] 1,000 people. You can handle it cuz
[00:14:38] you've done those.
[00:14:38] >> Yeah, that's like a convention then to
[00:14:40] me.
[00:14:40] >> that's
[00:14:41] you're going to lose
[00:14:44] >> the one-on-one stuff.
[00:14:44] >> The the the the whole part of aligning
[00:14:47] if there's 1,000 people or maybe I don't
[00:14:49] know. Tony Robbins does it, right?
[00:14:52] >> You know, same kind of same kind of
[00:14:54] thing but it's a whole different vibe I
[00:14:56] think at a Tony Robbins. But they still
[00:14:58] do the break breakouts. And you're going
[00:15:00] to have to have people I guess that's
[00:15:01] the thing about him, he has an
[00:15:03] organization and he's got these people
[00:15:05] that can do the small group breakouts so
[00:15:07] people are getting the attention they
[00:15:09] need to get the alignment that they're
[00:15:11] looking for.
[00:15:12] >> So that's where the the partnerships
[00:15:14] come in. You know, me partnering with
[00:15:17] different people who can bring different
[00:15:18] pieces to the puzzle. It
[00:15:20] >> Which is which is what you've been doing
[00:15:21] for
[00:15:22] >> That's what I do.
[00:15:23] >> decades.
[00:15:23] >> Mhm.
[00:15:24] >> Cuz you you obviously can't be a DJ and
[00:15:26] an MC and a photographer and a
[00:15:28] videographer and a caterer and
[00:15:31] >> Right.
[00:15:31] >> you know, bartender and all these
[00:15:33] things. Your your job is just to pull
[00:15:35] all these the conductor. Okay, that's a
[00:15:37] good way to put it.
[00:15:38] >> I always explain it to people. You need
[00:15:40] the conductor to conduct the orchestra.
[00:15:42] >> Mhm.
[00:15:42] >> You can't be the violinist and the
[00:15:44] saxophonist and run the show.
[00:15:46] >> time.
[00:15:47] >> Yeah. Not at all.
[00:15:48] >> Right. And it's a special skill.
[00:15:50] >> It is.
[00:15:50] >> Working with Tre I used to do some of
[00:15:52] her photography for her still
[00:15:53] photography for her.
[00:15:55] >> It's a little challenging sometimes.
[00:15:56] >> It is and then it's really it's really
[00:15:58] interesting cuz some some of her clients
[00:16:00] are really got it put together and
[00:16:02] understand what they want and then other
[00:16:04] clients are they just know that they
[00:16:05] want the photography but they don't
[00:16:07] really know what they want.
[00:16:08] >> They're a hot mess some some of them.
[00:16:11] And you have to tell them the value of
[00:16:13] certain things. You'd explain certain
[00:16:14] things to them and you have to insist on
[00:16:17] other things because when you're
[00:16:18] professional it's not a question.
[00:16:20] >> Like she insisted on the MC.
[00:16:22] >> I mean it just needs to happen.
[00:16:23] >> "If you want your party to go real real
[00:16:28] well and run well and everybody have a
[00:16:30] really good time and people participate,
[00:16:32] you need the MC. And this is the guy you
[00:16:35] need to hire cuz I've worked with him
[00:16:36] and I know that he can do it."
[00:16:38] >> Yeah.
[00:16:38] >> Yeah, I didn't like spending the money,
[00:16:40] I'll be honest.
[00:16:41] >> I'm sure.
[00:16:41] >> But I didn't regret it after we had the
[00:16:43] party.
[00:16:44] >> That part. I mean you hire somebody
[00:16:46] because you trust them.
[00:16:47] >> Mhm.
[00:16:47] >> You should trust them and you're
[00:16:50] trusting them with their expertise. So
[00:16:52] you want a level of confidence from that
[00:16:53] person.
[00:16:54] >> Right.
[00:16:55] >> people if I tell them something, they
[00:16:57] just do it. They don't even ask. And if
[00:16:59] it's an option, I'll say, "Well, there's
[00:17:00] different options. You can do this. You
[00:17:02] don't have to do this but this is what
[00:17:04] it's going to look like if you don't and
[00:17:05] this is what it'll look like if you do."
[00:17:07] >> Right. Like I think I probably spent
[00:17:09] more money on Teresa and her decorations
[00:17:12] than anything else.
[00:17:14] >> Right. I'm sure.
[00:17:15] >> That's where the bulk That was more than
[00:17:16] even the DJ and the MC.
[00:17:18] >> It should be.
[00:17:19] >> And more than the room and the food.
[00:17:21] >> Mhm.
[00:17:22] >> I'm I'm going to just say it it's what
[00:17:24] made the party.
[00:17:25] >> Yeah, it's there's value to that.
[00:17:27] >> that she was able to create and
[00:17:29] transform. It I'm still amazed to this
[00:17:31] day to think about it cuz it was just a
[00:17:33] very vanilla room, a little bit less
[00:17:35] vanilla than say this photo studio cuz
[00:17:37] this is actually a blank slate. So, she
[00:17:38] didn't really have a blank slate. She
[00:17:40] had to work with what she had.
[00:17:41] >> Right.
[00:17:41] >> At the same time though, it really
[00:17:43] turned on the atmosphere of the party
[00:17:46] and we had a really good time the way
[00:17:47] she had it all laid out. And here's the
[00:17:50] thing, I didn't think about nothing.
[00:17:53] >> That's good.
[00:17:53] >> just there to have a good time.
[00:17:55] >> Mhm. Nice.
[00:17:56] >> And that's that was that's I guess
[00:17:58] that's a sign of a successful event,
[00:18:00] right?
[00:18:01] >> That the person that's putting it on,
[00:18:03] having the planner there to have
[00:18:05] everything planned out, it just went
[00:18:07] without a hitch.
[00:18:08] >> Nice.
[00:18:09] >> You know? And yeah, the other tough part
[00:18:11] for me was the the photographer cuz
[00:18:13] that's like the milkman having to buy
[00:18:16] milk.
[00:18:18] >> Yeah, I'm sure that's tough.
[00:18:20] >> So, so I I wanted to kind of go there
[00:18:23] cuz you have this event and you're the
[00:18:25] one planning it. Are you going to be
[00:18:27] bringing on maybe an assistant to
[00:18:29] assistant planner so that you can
[00:18:31] participate in it or is your idea to be
[00:18:34] just the planner for that event?
[00:18:36] >> No, I'm the planner.
[00:18:37] >> You're the planner. Okay.
[00:18:38] >> it's a small enough venue that I don't
[00:18:40] really need an assistant for that. But I
[00:18:42] have a team of people working so I don't
[00:18:44] I don't have an assistant planner, but I
[00:18:46] have nine people working with me.
[00:18:48] >> Okay.
[00:18:48] >> That I'm bringing in.
[00:18:49] >> That you're going to be bringing in for
[00:18:50] this event over in Guatemala.
[00:18:52] >> Oh, in Guatemala?
[00:18:53] >> For the Alliance
[00:18:54] >> you meant for this one. Okay. No, I
[00:18:56] probably wouldn't I don't know. It just
[00:18:58] depended. I guess
[00:18:59] >> you going to be a participant in the
[00:19:01] Align or are you going to just plan it
[00:19:03] and have people there?
[00:19:04] >> I would be the leader for sure, but all
[00:19:07] the partner people that I would bring
[00:19:09] would be my team and they would be the
[00:19:11] ones doing certain pieces. So like the
[00:19:14] morning meditation or
[00:19:16] >> So that you can be part of it.
[00:19:18] >> Yes, because I'm not that person, you
[00:19:20] know, not I'm not a yogi, I'm not a
[00:19:22] meditation person, you know, I'm I'm not
[00:19:24] the caterer when I'm there, you know,
[00:19:26] there's just a lot of pieces to the
[00:19:28] puzzle that you need to have happen when
[00:19:30] you're there. I still would just be the
[00:19:32] conductor. I would participate in it,
[00:19:34] but I'm always going to be behind the
[00:19:35] scenes planning the next piece.
[00:19:38] >> Mhm.
[00:19:38] >> So participating fully doesn't really
[00:19:40] happen. I would participate before they
[00:19:42] come.
[00:19:44] I would do my own aligning before they
[00:19:45] come.
[00:19:46] >> Oh, I see.
[00:19:47] >> Yeah.
[00:19:47] >> As you're as you're preparing for the
[00:19:49] event to happen. Like curious for an
[00:19:52] event like that, what does that look
[00:19:53] like? Like how long is it and what's
[00:19:55] your preparation time?
[00:19:56] >> I almost feel like I want to demand 3
[00:19:59] weeks of people because if you can't
[00:20:00] carve out 3 weeks for yourself, which a
[00:20:02] lot of people find that to be a big
[00:20:04] challenge.
[00:20:05] >> Mhm.
[00:20:05] >> But if you can't, you you really can't
[00:20:07] tap out. You cannot tap out in a week.
[00:20:09] Halfway through a week, you're still
[00:20:10] looking at your cell phone. You're still
[00:20:12] communicating, did I do this? Did I pay
[00:20:14] this bill? Did I book this appointment
[00:20:16] for when I come back? You know, I'm
[00:20:17] talking to my wife, whatever it is that
[00:20:19] you need, you know, that people do. It
[00:20:21] takes the first week to stop doing that.
[00:20:23] And to settle your mind. I mean, I've
[00:20:25] had experience with traveling for a long
[00:20:27] time, but for the past at least 10
[00:20:30] years, I've done a minimum of 3 weeks a
[00:20:32] year because someone else taught me
[00:20:33] that. I was in shock. I'm like, 3 weeks,
[00:20:35] that's crazy. And she's like, it's not
[00:20:38] crazy. People in the US don't do that,
[00:20:40] but everywhere else they do.
[00:20:42] >> Yeah, we did we did we did 3 weeks
[00:20:44] this past fall.
[00:20:46] >> And when you can understand what it
[00:20:48] means to kind of like shut down and tap
[00:20:51] out tap out and really have a break, a
[00:20:53] mental break, when you experience that
[00:20:54] once, you don't want to go back. So it's
[00:20:56] different if you're going on a vacation
[00:20:57] with your family, you know, to on a
[00:21:00] cruise or to Disney or something, you
[00:21:01] have intention to do this these
[00:21:03] activities and to do this kind of thing,
[00:21:05] maybe that's a week. That's not a
[00:21:07] tap-out type of vacation. You know,
[00:21:08] that's not a like
[00:21:10] filling your cup situation at all.
[00:21:13] That's a lot of work and you come home
[00:21:14] tired.
[00:21:15] >> Right.
[00:21:15] >> Right. So, when you
[00:21:17] >> the Disney trips where it's like I need
[00:21:19] a vacation now from my vacation.
[00:21:21] >> I mean, it's really fun.
[00:21:22] >> up every day, you're paying all that
[00:21:23] money for those tickets and you want to
[00:21:24] make sure that like pre-living in
[00:21:27] Florida where I had the Florida pass.
[00:21:29] >> Right.
[00:21:29] >> Or I came from Missouri coming down here
[00:21:33] and I'd buy so many days and it's like
[00:21:35] you really wanted to maximize those
[00:21:36] days.
[00:21:37] >> So, 20-hour days.
[00:21:38] >> Yeah, yeah, literally. Literally, you're
[00:21:40] like up at 6:00 a.m. and you're not
[00:21:41] getting back home until, you know,
[00:21:44] 1:00 2:00 a.m. in the morning after they
[00:21:45] do the fireworks.
[00:21:46] >> And that's what that is. And that's
[00:21:48] okay. But that's not what this is. It's
[00:21:50] just different. This is more about
[00:21:52] filling your cup.
[00:21:53] >> So, you had somebody teach you that you
[00:21:55] need at least 3 weeks cuz the first week
[00:21:58] is kind of winding down.
[00:22:00] >> It's winding down and starting to
[00:22:02] understand that you need to shut down at
[00:22:05] all because we don't ever. So, the first
[00:22:07] week is that. The second week is you're
[00:22:09] finally kind of on vacation. You're kind
[00:22:11] of
[00:22:12] you know, exploring and enjoying and
[00:22:15] relaxing and breathing
[00:22:18] and taking stuff in. The third week,
[00:22:20] you're preparing to go back mentally
[00:22:22] already.
[00:22:23] >> That's interesting cuz when I organized
[00:22:24] this last trip, I organized it. We did 8
[00:22:28] hours in London,
[00:22:30] 3 days in Paris, 2 days in Bordeaux,
[00:22:33] traveled from Bordeaux to Rioja for 1
[00:22:35] day.
[00:22:36] >> Mhm.
[00:22:36] >> And then we went to Lyon and started our
[00:22:39] 1-week bicycle trip on the on the Camino
[00:22:42] in Spain.
[00:22:43] >> Nice.
[00:22:43] >> And that was our week to It was a little
[00:22:46] different than a vacation or Disney cuz
[00:22:47] we woke up every day and we had to ride
[00:22:49] our bikes
[00:22:49] >> Right.
[00:22:50] >> and
[00:22:52] >> really became that was like completely
[00:22:56] detached.
[00:22:57] >> Right.
[00:22:57] >> In the sense of, you know, okay, we're
[00:22:59] It was It was strange. It was a It was
[00:23:01] an odd experience in the sense of we're
[00:23:03] waking up every day and we know we got a
[00:23:05] big bike ride in front of us.
[00:23:06] >> You're right.
[00:23:07] >> And it was It was a neat experience for
[00:23:09] me.
[00:23:09] >> I'm sure.
[00:23:10] >> And we've had a few long vacations, but
[00:23:13] I'm just trying to think this one was
[00:23:15] intentionally built for that middle week
[00:23:18] to be that week on the Camino.
[00:23:20] >> Mhm.
[00:23:21] >> And it's interesting what you're saying
[00:23:22] >> Right.
[00:23:23] >> about that's when you can really
[00:23:25] >> You really enjoy yourself. And as soon
[00:23:27] as you know you're going back, it's it
[00:23:29] you're constantly in that mode of oh, I
[00:23:31] need to do this. I need to do that. You
[00:23:32] know, I have to make the most of my
[00:23:34] time. So, 3 weeks to me is the minimum.
[00:23:37] 4 weeks is ideal. 5 weeks is really
[00:23:40] great, but not everybody can get away
[00:23:42] that long.
[00:23:43] >> Mhm.
[00:23:43] >> Um if I'm gone more than a month, you
[00:23:46] know, I already plan that I have to
[00:23:48] work. And that's okay, but I just limit
[00:23:50] what that is.
[00:23:51] >> You're having to work while you're away.
[00:23:53] >> Yeah.
[00:23:54] >> So, you're not really completely
[00:23:56] >> Right.
[00:23:56] >> untethered.
[00:23:57] >> So, I plan to be untethered for at least
[00:23:59] 3 weeks. And then if I'm gone for 5, I
[00:24:01] know that I have to work for a couple of
[00:24:03] those weeks. So, maybe I'll work on on
[00:24:06] the the front end and the back end.
[00:24:08] >> and the back end.
[00:24:09] >> Or just randomly
[00:24:11] >> you can wind down and that 1 week in the
[00:24:13] middle is really focused
[00:24:15] >> So, it's like two two and a half weeks
[00:24:18] in the middle would be really focused if
[00:24:20] I'm gone 5 weeks.
[00:24:21] >> Oh, okay.
[00:24:22] >> like 3 weeks of really
[00:24:24] >> That's interesting.
[00:24:25] >> Yeah. And when you can get 5 weeks, you
[00:24:28] really can you know, like
[00:24:30] submerge yourself in the culture.
[00:24:32] >> Well, that's the big part of it. Yeah.
[00:24:34] >> And if you're not traveling from town to
[00:24:36] town to town to town, which is really
[00:24:38] fun. I did that this summer, too. That's
[00:24:40] great, but that's not what this is.
[00:24:41] Staying in one place and really
[00:24:45] getting getting to know people and
[00:24:46] getting to know
[00:24:47] >> It's an amazing experience. I was I was
[00:24:50] fortunate to be able to do that in
[00:24:51] Honduras. I was able to stay
[00:24:53] back in 2021. I was able to stay in
[00:24:55] Honduras for 5 weeks.
[00:24:56] >> Nice.
[00:24:57] >> And so, you're having to go to the
[00:24:58] grocery store, you're having to go get a
[00:24:59] haircut, you're having you know, I took
[00:25:02] scuba lessons while I was there. So,
[00:25:03] that's kind of what my activity ended up
[00:25:05] being. And then you're talking to the
[00:25:07] locals and where do you go for lunch and
[00:25:10] >> Exactly.
[00:25:10] >> Then you you find, you know, I got a
[00:25:12] picture, I'll have to show it to you. My
[00:25:13] wife So, when she came and joined me, I
[00:25:16] took her to the lunch spot and it's like
[00:25:18] you're literally reaching through some
[00:25:20] barbed wire and and some wood covering
[00:25:23] the window to like bars on the window
[00:25:26] and you're reaching through and getting
[00:25:27] your lunch. But it was like
[00:25:29] this is where all the people that work
[00:25:30] at the resort go.
[00:25:31] >> Yeah.
[00:25:32] >> And it was really good.
[00:25:33] >> Yeah, it's really great. Exactly. So,
[00:25:36] you can't experience those types of
[00:25:38] things, you know,
[00:25:39] >> Cuz if you're staying at the resort for
[00:25:40] a week or even 2 weeks,
[00:25:41] >> Right.
[00:25:42] >> you're you're
[00:25:44] you're too caught up in having to do all
[00:25:46] that you have Okay, I got to go see,
[00:25:48] you know, the dolphin show and I want to
[00:25:50] go make sure that I go do so many days
[00:25:52] scuba and I want to
[00:25:53] >> doing that.
[00:25:54] >> Yeah, you're not doing all that.
[00:25:56] >> Now, that
[00:25:56] >> It's almost like the Disney example,
[00:25:58] right? You're running around trying to
[00:25:59] make sure you can check check check
[00:26:01] check and you get all these check marks
[00:26:02] off.
[00:26:03] >> And there are experiences to have there,
[00:26:05] but
[00:26:06] the idea of being away 3 to 5 weeks is
[00:26:10] you find those experiences. They
[00:26:12] organically happen.
[00:26:14] >> Right.
[00:26:15] >> obviously we can connect the dots and
[00:26:16] kind of lead you in the right direction.
[00:26:18] Like are you interested in drum circles
[00:26:20] and yoga? These are the places you want
[00:26:22] to check out. Are you interested in
[00:26:24] fishing? You know, this is place you
[00:26:26] want to check out. Would you like to go
[00:26:27] to Spanish classes every day or three
[00:26:29] times a week or whatever? You know,
[00:26:31] these are the places that you can go.
[00:26:33] But it's it's more of a self-directed
[00:26:36] exploration, you know, where you meet
[00:26:37] somebody at the mango hut and you find
[00:26:40] out that that little girl sells banana
[00:26:41] bread from her mom every morning. You
[00:26:43] know, like you experience those things
[00:26:44] yourself. We don't have to dictate all
[00:26:46] of those things. There's not just
[00:26:48] restaurants in a resort that are open
[00:26:51] from this time to this time. You know,
[00:26:52] we'll give you specific things like you
[00:26:54] should be back at your place before it's
[00:26:57] dark, you know, certain rules and
[00:26:58] guidelines of what you need to do. And
[00:27:00] then you have to figure out the rest. Or
[00:27:01] hey, it rains between 12:00 p.m. and
[00:27:04] 5:00 p.m. So, if you want to go
[00:27:05] somewhere, get there before 12:00 and
[00:27:08] know that you're going to end up staying
[00:27:09] there until 5:00 so that you can come
[00:27:11] back on a boat, you know, to to go back
[00:27:13] home after 5:00. So, make sure that you
[00:27:15] plan your day accordingly. Wake up with
[00:27:16] the chickens, be back in your place
[00:27:18] before it's dark.
[00:27:19] >> that she mentioned that. I just had a
[00:27:21] guest previously in here and she was in
[00:27:23] um Nicaragua
[00:27:25] and she was talking about how, you know,
[00:27:27] she had a little bit of culture shock
[00:27:29] coming back because
[00:27:31] you wake up with the chickens everywhere
[00:27:33] and same same way for me when I was down
[00:27:36] in Honduras, too.
[00:27:37] >> Mhm. And it's it's a beautiful thing.
[00:27:39] You just really get in touch with
[00:27:40] nature.
[00:27:41] >> I can't say that word. What's it? The
[00:27:42] sarc- sarconium?
[00:27:44] >> Circadian
[00:27:44] >> Circadian rhythm.
[00:27:45] >> Mhm. It's a real thing.
[00:27:47] >> It's a real thing. It really is.
[00:27:48] >> don't even we're not even aware over
[00:27:50] here in America because we don't take
[00:27:53] enough time. We're not still enough to
[00:27:54] figure it out.
[00:27:55] >> When I was talking with her, she was
[00:27:56] talking about how a lot of people have
[00:27:57] like a TV I talked about how a lot of
[00:27:59] people have a TV in their bedrooms and
[00:28:01] they go to sleep with the blue light
[00:28:03] from the TV. It's just like it's it's
[00:28:05] just throwing their whole system out of
[00:28:07] whack.
[00:28:08] >> The place that I stay when I'm there has
[00:28:10] no TVs. The it's just nature.
[00:28:13] >> The whole entire wall opens up to see
[00:28:16] the lake and the three volcanoes. It's
[00:28:18] just amazing.
[00:28:19] >> Yeah, I've been to a place like that. It
[00:28:20] was called uh Pico Bonito
[00:28:22] >> Mhm.
[00:28:23] >> and um near La Ceiba in Honduras. And
[00:28:26] it's no TVs in the rooms, no Wi-Fi. I
[00:28:29] think they had internet available maybe
[00:28:31] at like the guest services or something.
[00:28:34] Well, there's not even a coffee shop.
[00:28:35] There's there's no restaurant. I mean,
[00:28:36] there's a there's a kitchen. They cook
[00:28:38] food. You have to eat their food cuz
[00:28:40] there's you got to drive like an hour to
[00:28:43] get to a restaurant.
[00:28:45] >> Mhm.
[00:28:45] >> But there's not really a restaurant
[00:28:47] restaurant. So chef, what you'd like to
[00:28:49] eat and
[00:28:50] >> And they figure it out. Nice.
[00:28:52] >> You know.
[00:28:53] >> But those types of things just take us
[00:28:54] out of like automatically instantly take
[00:28:57] you out of your norm. You know, if you
[00:28:59] go somewhere else on vacation in
[00:29:01] Colorado or Wyoming or anywhere to a
[00:29:03] hotel, you're still in your norm cuz you
[00:29:05] can go to Costco, you can go to Publix,
[00:29:07] you can call Uber Eats, you can call an
[00:29:09] Uber and go somewhere.
[00:29:10] >> going to Hawaii I was surprised. Yeah,
[00:29:11] there's there's Sam's Club and Costco
[00:29:13] and we can go there and get our stuff.
[00:29:15] >> None of that.
[00:29:15] >> Yeah, there's Costco.
[00:29:16] >> There's no Ubers. There's There's not
[00:29:18] even cars. You have to walk.
[00:29:20] >> You mentioned taking a boat.
[00:29:21] >> Mhm. There's boats. You go across the
[00:29:23] lake for everything. So if you want to
[00:29:25] go party, you go to San Pedro. If you
[00:29:27] want to go shopping, you go to
[00:29:29] Panajachel. If you You know, there's
[00:29:31] just like different places you go for
[00:29:33] different things.
[00:29:33] >> Hablas español, también?
[00:29:34] >> Sí. Un poquito.
[00:29:35] >> All right.
[00:29:37] So that's very helpful, too.
[00:29:38] >> Yes.
[00:29:38] >> Uh you take lessons when you're there?
[00:29:40] >> Um I did a long time ago, but I don't
[00:29:43] really need to do that at this point.
[00:29:44] I'm probably going to live there
[00:29:45] part-time.
[00:29:46] >> Okay.
[00:29:47] >> I'm going back in a couple months to go
[00:29:49] look at property.
[00:29:50] >> Oh, wow. That sounds exciting.
[00:29:52] >> Yeah, it's pretty beautiful.
[00:29:53] >> That's part I never even knew. It's nice
[00:29:55] to have this sit down and have these
[00:29:57] conversations.
[00:29:58] >> I've been talking about it for years, so
[00:30:00] I'm going to start looking.
[00:30:01] >> Start looking seriously. Okay.
[00:30:03] >> And then I can do my retreats at my own
[00:30:05] property, maybe. So
[00:30:06] >> Maybe. Yeah.
[00:30:07] >> But the place that I stay usually is
[00:30:09] owned by a French gentleman. It's very
[00:30:12] private and it has like a big metal
[00:30:15] fortress. It's like a fortress, like a
[00:30:16] big metal wall um surrounding the
[00:30:19] property. So um lots of private
[00:30:20] properties have They're enclosed like
[00:30:23] that. Um and there's other properties
[00:30:24] that are not. So when people who never
[00:30:27] go to Guatemala, they feel, you know,
[00:30:29] more protected and they are because
[00:30:31] they're they're on someone's private
[00:30:32] property. So that person takes a vested
[00:30:34] interest in making sure their people are
[00:30:36] good and that their people are accounted
[00:30:38] for and like you know, if you're missing
[00:30:39] for for days, they would notice.
[00:30:41] >> Right.
[00:30:42] >> Because it's just it's a private
[00:30:43] property. But it's really big and you
[00:30:45] don't even know anybody else is there
[00:30:47] when you're there. You feel like you're
[00:30:48] the only person there.
[00:30:49] >> Oh, wow.
[00:30:50] >> So all of the villas are like really
[00:30:52] spread out and once in a while you'll
[00:30:54] see somebody else unless you
[00:30:56] intentionally are planning to gather
[00:30:58] somewhere on the property. So it's just
[00:31:00] really cool.
[00:31:00] >> So how do people find out about this
[00:31:02] retreat?
[00:31:02] >> Um I would have to market it.
[00:31:04] >> Oh, it's not marketed yet.
[00:31:05] >> No.
[00:31:05] >> Oh, okay.
[00:31:06] >> had put it together during COVID COVID
[00:31:09] and it's stayed in my computer since.
[00:31:10] >> Okay.
[00:31:11] >> just have been busy and
[00:31:12] >> When when do you think they're going to
[00:31:13] be doing this? Is it this year or more
[00:31:16] next year or something?
[00:31:17] >> I think it'll be this year to be honest.
[00:31:18] >> This year?
[00:31:19] >> Yeah.
[00:31:19] >> Oh, wow.
[00:31:20] >> Maybe like in the fall or something.
[00:31:22] >> Okay.
[00:31:22] >> Mhm.
[00:31:23] >> Yeah, is that a good Is that a good time
[00:31:25] to go there?
[00:31:26] >> Um well, I usually go in the summer,
[00:31:28] which is the rainy season, and I like
[00:31:29] the rainy season because I love when it
[00:31:31] rains, but it rains a lot in the rainy
[00:31:33] season.
[00:31:34] >> Right.
[00:31:34] >> Like 5 hours a day, but I think it's
[00:31:36] amazing to be in a place and all the
[00:31:38] windows are open and it's pouring rain
[00:31:40] and you see volcanoes in a lake and it's
[00:31:43] just fantastic. Because you you get up
[00:31:45] at like 5:00 6:00 in the morning with
[00:31:46] the chickens literally and you go
[00:31:49] explore and shop and whatever you do,
[00:31:52] whatever you're doing for the day, and
[00:31:53] you can be back before noon. That's
[00:31:55] usually what I do. Or you go across the
[00:31:57] lake to another place where they have
[00:31:59] places where you can just hang out. Like
[00:32:01] there's this really great place called
[00:32:02] Zula and it's like a outside tent, this
[00:32:05] huge tent with these cool like arts
[00:32:08] artful like balls hanging from the
[00:32:10] ceiling and there's low tables and
[00:32:12] there's mats where you can lay down and
[00:32:14] read a book for hours and just have a
[00:32:16] coffee or a sandwich or I play chess
[00:32:20] with random people there. Then I take a
[00:32:22] nap and then I catch the next boat. So
[00:32:24] wherever you go to eat lunch or dinner,
[00:32:25] you usually hang out like 2 3 hours
[00:32:27] because you're either around a fireplace
[00:32:30] or in a situation like I was explaining.
[00:32:32] The climate like is this high in the
[00:32:33] mountains?
[00:32:34] >> Yeah, the altitude's really high. So
[00:32:36] it's very challenging physically as
[00:32:38] well, which is great. And after like a
[00:32:40] week, you start to feel the the shift.
[00:32:44] >> Us flat landers here in Florida,
[00:32:45] >> Mhm. But, it's awesome.
[00:32:47] >> It's a thing, let me tell you. I'll
[00:32:49] never forget going to uh Haleakala
[00:32:52] in Hawaii and being out of shape and
[00:32:56] literally at 10,000 ft, we couldn't
[00:32:58] breathe.
[00:32:59] >> Yeah. I was I was going to say I think
[00:33:01] it's like 9,000.
[00:33:02] >> Okay, yeah. That's That's getting up
[00:33:03] there.
[00:33:04] >> So, it was like really tough to breathe.
[00:33:06] >> I remember people in um I went to a
[00:33:08] conference in Denver, which is 5,000 ft.
[00:33:11] >> Okay.
[00:33:12] >> And there were a few folks there that
[00:33:14] just were having a tough time even at
[00:33:16] 5,000 ft. So, it just
[00:33:18] >> I think it's a great challenge. It's a
[00:33:19] great physical challenge. It's a great
[00:33:21] mental challenge, spiritual challenge,
[00:33:24] just being by yourself and not
[00:33:26] constantly being, you know, what we're
[00:33:28] doing.
[00:33:28] >> phone.
[00:33:29] >> Like, you just don't see people doing
[00:33:30] that.
[00:33:31] >> I couldn't believe it the other day, so
[00:33:32] I decided to try to start walking every
[00:33:34] day.
[00:33:35] >> Mhm.
[00:33:35] >> And I'm walking around school starting
[00:33:38] time, and the kids walking to the bus, I
[00:33:41] had to like I didn't say anything other
[00:33:43] than I just would say pretty loudly,
[00:33:45] "Good morning." Cuz if I didn't say good
[00:33:47] morning to them, they were going to run
[00:33:49] into me.
[00:33:50] Cuz they're all on their phone.
[00:33:52] >> Yeah.
[00:33:53] >> It's like they can't even They can't
[00:33:54] even walk to the bus stop without being
[00:33:57] on their phone.
[00:33:58] >> Yeah, it's crazy.
[00:33:59] >> Don't know what we're going to do as a
[00:34:00] society with all of these folks that are
[00:34:02] just stuck on their phone. And I'm I'm
[00:34:04] as guilty as anybody else. I know my
[00:34:06] daughter went to the doctor. So, she
[00:34:08] pipettes in the laboratory daily. So,
[00:34:11] pipette you're doing this. But, she's
[00:34:13] having I guess carpal tunnel, and the
[00:34:15] doctor asking her about her uh social
[00:34:19] media time that she's been on social
[00:34:21] media, and she had to literally delete
[00:34:23] Instagram. Her doctor like, "You need to
[00:34:25] delete Instagram." She's like, "What
[00:34:27] social media?" He find out. I guess he
[00:34:28] looked on the phone. There's a way to
[00:34:29] check.
[00:34:30] >> Yeah. How many hours?
[00:34:31] >> She's on it. Instagram was the specific
[00:34:34] platform that she was on and literally
[00:34:36] he's like, you're going to have to
[00:34:37] delete that else you're going to have
[00:34:38] problems with your thumb.
[00:34:40] >> That's crazy.
[00:34:42] Yeah, I'm actually thinking about the
[00:34:44] Align retreat like, you know, having a
[00:34:46] gathering session where I have a bag and
[00:34:48] we put all the phones in there in the
[00:34:50] morning and they get it back like an
[00:34:52] hour in the evening or something.
[00:34:53] >> Make sure it's a Faraday bag.
[00:34:54] >> What is that?
[00:34:55] >> It blocks all the signals, too.
[00:34:57] >> Oh, okay.
[00:34:59] And I'm just like, you know, people need
[00:35:00] to communicate with their family, you
[00:35:02] know, or whatnot. So, they have to have
[00:35:03] access to check things sometimes, but
[00:35:06] limiting people's access immediately
[00:35:08] would be interesting.
[00:35:10] >> I think so.
[00:35:11] >> Really challenging for people.
[00:35:12] >> I think it, you know, I don't know if
[00:35:13] you want to require it, but I think it'd
[00:35:14] be great. I bet you'd be surprised how
[00:35:16] many people would maybe volunteer to
[00:35:18] give it up or at least to try.
[00:35:19] >> Or like have some type of, you know,
[00:35:21] locker or something that's not in their
[00:35:23] villa that you'd have to go out to go
[00:35:25] use your phone. You can use it whenever
[00:35:27] you want, but you have to go out to go
[00:35:28] >> Right, it's locked up.
[00:35:30] >> Then it makes you think about it.
[00:35:32] >> you got to actually
[00:35:34] Yeah, you got to actually put some
[00:35:35] thought. I got to get up out of my chair
[00:35:37] or off the bed or
[00:35:38] >> Yeah.
[00:35:39] >> You know, and and I got to go walk over
[00:35:41] there.
[00:35:42] >> And it just like kind of forces you to
[00:35:44] ground yourself and to like let it go.
[00:35:46] >> To to really consider, do I really need
[00:35:50] to be looking at that phone?
[00:35:52] >> Right.
[00:35:53] >> So, I don't know if I shared with you
[00:35:54] while I was over in Europe, um, Meta
[00:35:56] decided to deplatform me. It happened
[00:35:59] while we were actually just the
[00:36:01] beginning of starting on the Camino. I
[00:36:03] didn't really even have almost a chance
[00:36:05] to think about it because I'm in that
[00:36:08] week that you're talking about where I
[00:36:10] needed to be focused on what I was
[00:36:12] doing. And so, between not having good
[00:36:14] service, having them shut down my
[00:36:16] account, yeah, I didn't even appeal it
[00:36:18] until I got back to Madrid because I
[00:36:20] didn't
[00:36:21] there wasn't
[00:36:23] really a way to do it.
[00:36:24] >> Right.
[00:36:24] >> And um,
[00:36:26] it was interesting and I've gotten to
[00:36:27] the point now that I don't even care
[00:36:31] about it. Like I've had people like,
[00:36:32] "Well, you should, you know, maybe see
[00:36:34] if you can get a lawyer." I've seen some
[00:36:35] people they file a small claims lawsuit
[00:36:38] and then they don't get anything out of
[00:36:39] it, but they at least turn their account
[00:36:40] back on. I mean, I guess I miss maybe my
[00:36:43] photos that I had there that I may not
[00:36:46] have on my phone cuz I think if you take
[00:36:47] a photo and post it, it doesn't actually
[00:36:49] save into my photos on my phone. I think
[00:36:52] it just directly goes into meta. But um,
[00:36:55] I'm almost to the point now I don't want
[00:36:57] I don't even want an account.
[00:36:58] >> Right.
[00:36:59] >> Like if they came to me and said, "Oh,
[00:37:01] we're going to give you an account."
[00:37:02] Like, "Yeah, well, you can just keep
[00:37:03] it."
[00:37:04] >> Right. Exactly. But there's something
[00:37:06] interesting about um, so in a scenario
[00:37:09] like what I'm talking about, you know, a
[00:37:11] lot of us would think, "Well, I don't
[00:37:12] want to go to a new country or a new
[00:37:14] place without my phone because I need
[00:37:15] GPS to figure out where to go." And in
[00:37:17] this scenario, you don't need it at all.
[00:37:20] You think you need it, but you're
[00:37:21] challenged to speak to people. You're
[00:37:23] challenged to, you know, find the big
[00:37:26] tree that everybody talks about where
[00:37:27] you make a right at the big tree or
[00:37:29] where the yellow dog sits on the corner.
[00:37:30] You know, things like that.
[00:37:32] >> Well, here's the reality of that
[00:37:34] and having just experienced that on the
[00:37:36] Camino.
[00:37:36] >> Mhm.
[00:37:37] >> The GPS doesn't know crap.
[00:37:39] >> Exactly.
[00:37:40] >> got us lost lost more times than it
[00:37:42] helped us find out where we were going.
[00:37:44] >> Right.
[00:37:45] >> We were on our way to this town called O
[00:37:47] Cebreiro and we were at this other stop
[00:37:51] and had breakfast. It told us to go this
[00:37:53] way, we went that way and then after we
[00:37:56] got to our destination told people how
[00:37:57] we went, they're like, "Why would you go
[00:37:59] that way?"
[00:38:01] That way we had to climb, I forgot how
[00:38:03] many thousands more feet of climb on our
[00:38:05] bikes. I think it was technically the
[00:38:07] shorter way,
[00:38:09] but much more difficult to cycle. And we
[00:38:12] could have gone maybe an extra couple of
[00:38:14] I mean, you know how the GPS routes you
[00:38:16] routes you shortest distance, but maybe
[00:38:18] you go 1 or 2 km, which is nothing to
[00:38:20] ride on the bike if you considered you
[00:38:22] didn't have to go an extra 2,000 ft and
[00:38:24] climb.
[00:38:25] >> You're right. Yeah, yeah. That's right.
[00:38:27] >> I'd much rather go a few extra
[00:38:29] kilometers or miles, you know, flatter.
[00:38:32] And yeah, trust me, being out in the
[00:38:33] middle of nowhere where you don't know
[00:38:34] where you're going, I'd have been much
[00:38:36] better off just getting a map.
[00:38:37] >> Exactly.
[00:38:38] >> And then looking at the elevation.
[00:38:40] Here's a little map and showing it to
[00:38:41] somebody. It's like, "Hey, we're going
[00:38:43] here. Which way do you recommend?"
[00:38:45] >> Right.
[00:38:45] >> That way we would have been far more
[00:38:47] better off.
[00:38:48] >> Yeah. I feel like that's
[00:38:49] >> 100% right on that one. You think you
[00:38:52] need that phone, you don't need it for
[00:38:54] nothing.
[00:38:54] >> So, it's just kind of taking you back to
[00:38:56] to nothing, you know, just taking people
[00:38:58] back to nothing to the simplicity of
[00:39:01] just nothing. No noise, no other people
[00:39:04] begging for your attention, distracting
[00:39:06] you all day long. And there's there's
[00:39:08] all these distractions all the time for
[00:39:09] us. So, what happens when it's quiet?
[00:39:12] That's hard. It's hard to be quiet.
[00:39:14] >> Oh, it is.
[00:39:15] >> It's a really hard to be quiet. After
[00:39:16] like the first week, it's really hard.
[00:39:18] It's a challenge. And you start to You
[00:39:20] have to try to figure out things to
[00:39:22] entertain yourself or to avoid yourself
[00:39:24] sometimes because sometimes the the mind
[00:39:29] is
[00:39:29] >> mind.
[00:39:30] >> Yeah.
[00:39:31] It gets a little crazy.
[00:39:32] >> yoga instructor calls it, the monkey
[00:39:33] mind.
[00:39:34] >> It's true.
[00:39:34] >> The monkeys get you thinking.
[00:39:36] >> You start thinking about things that you
[00:39:37] haven't thought about because you've
[00:39:39] kept yourself distracted all the time.
[00:39:41] And now you're really thinking about
[00:39:42] things like, "Wow, right. What do I
[00:39:44] really think about that? You know, those
[00:39:47] relationships or things that, you know,
[00:39:49] maybe you're holding on to, you know,
[00:39:51] work through certain things. You have no
[00:39:53] idea what you're going to experience
[00:39:54] until you get there.
[00:39:55] >> And so, who who was it that Are you able
[00:39:57] to share who was it that taught you
[00:39:58] this?
[00:39:59] >> So, I have a friend who's a teacher. So,
[00:40:01] they get the summer off.
[00:40:02] >> Mhm.
[00:40:03] >> I used to kind of resent her because she
[00:40:06] always got to go traveling during the
[00:40:08] summer. And I would have to work all the
[00:40:10] time. And I was a single parent. And
[00:40:12] she's like, "You can do whatever you
[00:40:13] want to do as long as you can figure out
[00:40:15] your son, you know, which was Justin
[00:40:17] back then. And
[00:40:18] >> your son?
[00:40:19] >> Yeah.
[00:40:19] >> I didn't know that. Okay.
[00:40:20] >> Yeah, he's my firstborn.
[00:40:22] >> Okay.
[00:40:23] >> I did figure him out. And she's like,
[00:40:24] "Figure him out and I'll show you this
[00:40:27] really great place. It's my favorite
[00:40:28] place on the planet." That's what she
[00:40:29] told me. And she said, "I'll plan
[00:40:31] everything. You don't have to do
[00:40:32] anything. Just show up." So, I did. And
[00:40:34] she's like, "This is going to be tough
[00:40:35] for you, but it's going to be the most
[00:40:37] amazing thing you're ever going to
[00:40:38] experience." And it just was.
[00:40:40] >> And how long ago was that?
[00:40:42] >> Like 11 years ago.
[00:40:43] >> Oh, wow. And then how often do you go?
[00:40:46] >> To Guatemala?
[00:40:47] >> Yeah.
[00:40:47] >> I've been
[00:40:49] four times. And one time I took all
[00:40:51] three of my kids because I was going to
[00:40:52] move there with them. And I wanted them
[00:40:54] to experience it and see if they felt
[00:40:56] what I felt. And if they felt like they
[00:40:58] could live there because it's not like
[00:41:00] here at all.
[00:41:00] >> No, it's not.
[00:41:02] >> And I also was challenged with, you
[00:41:04] know, am I taking my kids from a
[00:41:06] scenario where you can have access to so
[00:41:08] many things to a scenario where, you
[00:41:11] know, there's true poverty, you know,
[00:41:13] and and true challenge with schooling
[00:41:15] and different things. Like, is that a
[00:41:16] big mistake as a parent to do that? You
[00:41:18] know, there's a lot of beautiful things
[00:41:19] you get from, you know, moving somewhere
[00:41:21] like that, but there's also a lot of
[00:41:23] challenges. So, in the end we decided
[00:41:25] that we weren't moving there and I would
[00:41:26] have to wait until they grew up. My My
[00:41:28] other son said, "This is amazing. It's
[00:41:30] like a movie. It's exactly what you
[00:41:32] always described, but I don't I don't
[00:41:34] know if I could socially be here. He's
[00:41:35] like, I'd I'd miss socialization. I'd
[00:41:37] miss,
[00:41:38] you know, what I know as school. I don't
[00:41:40] think I could be here full-time." So, we
[00:41:43] didn't.
[00:41:43] >> We actually had an opportunity to do the
[00:41:45] same in San Pedro.
[00:41:47] >> Okay.
[00:41:47] >> But, um, yeah, we ultimately chose not
[00:41:50] to do that. I had a friend that had a
[00:41:51] house. The tenant moved out and didn't
[00:41:53] notify them and they were in Europe.
[00:41:55] >> Mhm.
[00:41:55] >> And so, I don't know how it is in
[00:41:57] Guatemala and Honduras, if you don't
[00:41:59] have a watchman there,
[00:42:00] >> Mhm.
[00:42:01] >> the house just disappears. So, they
[00:42:02] literally took the tile off the roof,
[00:42:05] >> Mhm.
[00:42:06] >> the cabinets from the kitchen, the
[00:42:08] bathroom fixtures, the light fixtures.
[00:42:10] >> Wow.
[00:42:11] >> And it's like I would drive by this
[00:42:12] every so many weeks or months. I had a
[00:42:14] business down there, so I was down there
[00:42:16] fairly often, but every few months I'd
[00:42:18] go by and then there'd be something else
[00:42:20] missing. There'd be something else
[00:42:21] Eventually there was no house left.
[00:42:23] >> Oh, gosh.
[00:42:23] >> They literally took the whole house.
[00:42:25] >> Wow.
[00:42:25] >> The the concrete blocks were gone. The
[00:42:28] only thing left was the
[00:42:30] the foundation of the house.
[00:42:31] >> if it's like that if it's that rough. Um
[00:42:34] I knew a realtor out there and the
[00:42:36] people that I you know that I'm
[00:42:38] associated with her that I talked to
[00:42:39] based on the property I stay at, they
[00:42:42] all own, you know, private fortresses
[00:42:44] basically. So, they all have somebody
[00:42:47] who stays on the property and mine is a
[00:42:49] >> Well, we we rented a house there and I
[00:42:50] had to I literally had to pay a guy to
[00:42:52] go sleep there.
[00:42:53] >> Yeah. Okay.
[00:42:54] >> Cuz the workers wouldn't you know they
[00:42:55] would It was a house I I rented a house
[00:42:57] and we worked out of the house.
[00:42:59] >> Yeah.
[00:42:59] >> And but there was a guy that would come
[00:43:01] and he'd sleep there at night. That was
[00:43:03] his job just to sleep there and make
[00:43:04] sure nothing got legs and
[00:43:06] >> down.
[00:43:07] >> I remember I don't know if it was my
[00:43:08] wife or her grandmother that came here.
[00:43:11] I think it was my wife actually when she
[00:43:12] first came to US and they were driving
[00:43:14] around and they saw like construction
[00:43:17] sites and then you have all the
[00:43:18] equipment just laying out there. I was
[00:43:19] like, "They just leave that out?" Yeah.
[00:43:22] "Nobody takes it?" I'm like, "No."
[00:43:24] >> Because I mean it's there's a lot of
[00:43:26] poverty there, so everything becomes
[00:43:28] valuable.
[00:43:29] >> At the point it still had a roof and
[00:43:30] stuff and it actually still I think had
[00:43:32] kitchen cabinets. They hadn't taken too
[00:43:34] much. She's like, "If you fix that house
[00:43:36] up, you can just stay there as long as
[00:43:37] you want." And so it was going to cost
[00:43:38] It wasn't going to cost that much.
[00:43:40] >> Mhm.
[00:43:40] >> We had a golden opportunity to to live
[00:43:42] there. I mean, I say all that
[00:43:44] tongue-in-cheek. It's not that it's I
[00:43:46] mean, although Honduras has had a bad
[00:43:48] bad rep in the past, it it still wasn't
[00:43:51] It wasn't dangerous.
[00:43:52] >> Right.
[00:43:53] >> And I don't think it would have been
[00:43:54] that dangerous. I don't know. Um you
[00:43:56] actually have to take precautions. And
[00:43:58] there's places you don't want to go.
[00:44:00] >> Yeah, you just need to be aware.
[00:44:01] >> You just have to know from a local kind
[00:44:03] of what to do, where to go, and that
[00:44:05] kind of thing.
[00:44:06] I don't know. Probably the same idea. I
[00:44:08] mean, cuz she grew up in that town.
[00:44:09] That's what she was there until she was
[00:44:10] 15. You know, there's no like current
[00:44:13] community that she lived in ended up
[00:44:15] being gated and fenced at that point.
[00:44:18] But when she grew up, there was, you
[00:44:19] know, no gates. It was just open.
[00:44:21] Anybody could just come in. You know,
[00:44:23] she rode her bike over to her friend's
[00:44:24] house, and that stuff just doesn't
[00:44:26] happen anymore, unfortunately, down
[00:44:27] there. But I don't I think that's kind
[00:44:29] of even the nature even in the US a
[00:44:31] little bit, too.
[00:44:32] >> Even in Wisconsin.
[00:44:34] >> With the gated communities and stuff
[00:44:36] like that. I saw a comedian, and he was
[00:44:39] saying, it was kind of funny. He's like,
[00:44:40] it's not that it didn't exist back in
[00:44:43] the '60s and '70s. It's just we didn't
[00:44:44] know
[00:44:45] >> Right.
[00:44:46] >> that was happening.
[00:44:47] >> Exactly.
[00:44:48] >> It is just, you know, I think the
[00:44:49] awareness factor is just what is
[00:44:51] different today than it was back then.
[00:44:53] Yeah, it's interesting you had that same
[00:44:55] thought. I'm still glad we we went from
[00:44:57] St. Louis to South Florida, though.
[00:44:59] >> Mhm.
[00:44:59] >> I'm still glad we made that move for the
[00:45:01] kids.
[00:45:01] >> Yeah.
[00:45:02] >> And one of them speaks Spanish,
[00:45:04] fortunately, and the other two know a
[00:45:06] little bit, but the oldest is actually
[00:45:08] fluent.
[00:45:09] >> Oh, nice.
[00:45:10] >> So, that's nice for her.
[00:45:12] >> That's great.
[00:45:12] >> And um so, did your kids ever pick up
[00:45:14] Spanish being here in South Florida?
[00:45:16] >> Um they did. They, when they grew up, we
[00:45:19] had a nanny who only spoke Spanish.
[00:45:21] >> Oh, okay.
[00:45:22] >> were tiny, they did sign language and
[00:45:25] spoke Spanish before English.
[00:45:27] >> Before English. Okay.
[00:45:29] >> Now, they've lost most of it, and they
[00:45:32] only speak a little bit.
[00:45:33] >> Yeah. Well, if they got back in the
[00:45:34] environment, they'd probably pick it up
[00:45:36] pretty quick.
[00:45:36] >> But my oldest, he speaks a lot.
[00:45:39] >> Oh, he speaks a lot. That's good.
[00:45:40] >> from Chile.
[00:45:41] >> Okay.
[00:45:42] >> So, they speak a lot of Spanish, but he
[00:45:44] he talks a lot of in Spanish,
[00:45:45] basically.
[00:45:47] So, if he has to do like a professional
[00:45:49] discussion, it probably
[00:45:50] >> wouldn't work very well. Yeah.
[00:45:52] >> That's what's interesting. So, the
[00:45:53] oldest is actually getting tutored, and
[00:45:55] her interest level is learning
[00:45:57] scientific Spanish, like actual
[00:46:00] >> Mhm.
[00:46:00] >> So, like you would learn, I guess,
[00:46:01] business Spanish.
[00:46:03] >> Right.
[00:46:03] >> You know, everyday conversation she's
[00:46:05] fine. She can, like your son, she can do
[00:46:07] that, but then she had to actually speak
[00:46:09] academically or something like that, she
[00:46:11] wouldn't
[00:46:13] wouldn't be able Well, maybe she can now
[00:46:14] cuz she's been getting tutoring for a
[00:46:15] while.
[00:46:16] >> Right.
[00:46:16] >> But yeah, it's a whole different level,
[00:46:18] right?
[00:46:18] >> whole different level. When I worked in
[00:46:20] a bank back in the day, I worked in
[00:46:23] Homestead, and I asked them to send me
[00:46:26] to school to learn banking terminology.
[00:46:28] I mean, where would you learn that?
[00:46:30] >> Right.
[00:46:30] >> you you have to learn that in English
[00:46:32] when you work in a bank. You have to
[00:46:33] learn banking terminology. So, how would
[00:46:36] you know Spanish? The same way.
[00:46:38] >> Mhm.
[00:46:38] >> So, they paid for me to go to school.
[00:46:40] >> Oh, wow.
[00:46:40] >> Mhm.
[00:46:41] >> And they taught you like business
[00:46:43] Spanish?
[00:46:43] >> doing commercial lending to people who
[00:46:45] only spoke Spanish.
[00:46:46] >> Oh, wow.
[00:46:47] >> And the documents were in English. So
[00:46:49] >> But you had to kind of explain it to
[00:46:50] them so they could understand.
[00:46:52] >> And I got them to translate the
[00:46:54] documents in Spanish on the back.
[00:46:56] >> Okay.
[00:46:56] >> Because I couldn't understand why 90% of
[00:46:59] the population only spoke Spanish, but
[00:47:01] you have English documents. It doesn't
[00:47:03] even seem legal to me that they're
[00:47:04] signing commercial lending documents in
[00:47:06] a different language.
[00:47:08] >> Right.
[00:47:08] >> Seems really crazy. So, I got that to
[00:47:11] happen, so I was really excited about
[00:47:12] that. But I've always taken a
[00:47:14] a liking and an interest in, you know,
[00:47:17] Latin music, Latin culture, Latin food,
[00:47:20] dancing. I don't know, it just it
[00:47:22] resonates with me, so.
[00:47:23] >> Right. Yeah, I worked I worked in an IT
[00:47:25] department down in Miami, and they had
[00:47:28] offices all throughout Central, South
[00:47:30] America, and the Caribbean. And yeah, I
[00:47:33] didn't get to go to a class. I did I
[00:47:34] think they got me a copy of Rosetta
[00:47:36] Stone. That was the extent that I was
[00:47:37] able to get trained. But I I was able to
[00:47:41] take quite a few phone call support
[00:47:43] calls and learning the terminology of
[00:47:45] the business and then the terminology of
[00:47:47] the application and then like computer
[00:47:50] type terminology, you know, printer and
[00:47:53] toner and I can't remember all of it
[00:47:55] now, but
[00:47:56] >> Right.
[00:47:56] >> they you know, literally, yeah, they
[00:47:58] they
[00:48:00] knew no English.
[00:48:01] >> Wow.
[00:48:02] >> So, he just kind of had to jump in with
[00:48:05] both feet
[00:48:05] >> Yeah, figure it out.
[00:48:07] >> and figure it out.
[00:48:08] >> Hand motions.
[00:48:09] >> Well, I'm on the phone, so it makes it
[00:48:11] even harder. That really forces you that
[00:48:13] you have to speak. That's like the
[00:48:15] hardest part for me now is cuz you're
[00:48:17] I'm embarrassed, but I'm trying to get
[00:48:19] past that.
[00:48:19] >> Mhm.
[00:48:20] >> And just just blurt it out there, no
[00:48:22] matter how horrible it sounds.
[00:48:24] >> out.
[00:48:24] >> Then slowly, I know Elena is speaking
[00:48:26] more Spanish with me. So, but her first,
[00:48:28] even though she grew up in Honduras, her
[00:48:30] first language
[00:48:32] is still English.
[00:48:33] >> Okay.
[00:48:33] >> Cuz her mother was a stay-at-home mom
[00:48:36] who's American.
[00:48:37] >> Okay.
[00:48:37] >> dad was the Honduran.
[00:48:39] >> Okay.
[00:48:39] >> And then she went to bilingual school.
[00:48:41] So, most of the courses were in English.
[00:48:43] >> Mhm.
[00:48:44] >> And so, the only Spanish she learned
[00:48:46] really was Spanish class and I think
[00:48:48] civics
[00:48:50] and
[00:48:51] um the playground.
[00:48:53] >> Okay.
[00:48:54] >> You know.
[00:48:54] >> Yeah.
[00:48:55] >> And her dad spoke English at home.
[00:48:57] >> Okay.
[00:48:57] >> Cuz he wanted I mean, at that point,
[00:48:59] they never thought they would move back
[00:49:00] to the US.
[00:49:01] >> Right.
[00:49:02] >> So, he wanted to make sure that they
[00:49:03] knew English. So, they did they they
[00:49:05] were suc- definitely successful there.
[00:49:07] >> Right.
[00:49:08] >> So, they all there's four of them and
[00:49:10] they all four speak English very well.
[00:49:12] >> Nice.
[00:49:13] >> But I think Elena is probably the one
[00:49:15] that's
[00:49:16] still the most fluent in Spanish.
[00:49:18] Although her sister, who's older, is is
[00:49:21] picking up on it more. But we're going
[00:49:23] to go see them this weekend. I guarantee
[00:49:25] that conversation's going to be 99%
[00:49:27] English.
[00:49:30] Cuz that's I mean, I guess they just go
[00:49:31] back to what they had when they were
[00:49:32] growing up as kids, right? So, when your
[00:49:34] kids were little doing the signing in
[00:49:35] the Spanish, did they talk with each
[00:49:37] other
[00:49:38] >> No.
[00:49:38] >> Spanish? Just to the just to the nanny?
[00:49:40] >> To the nanny or to the parents, to
[00:49:42] myself and my husband then. But they
[00:49:44] didn't talk to each other in Spanish.
[00:49:46] >> They didn't talk to each other in
[00:49:47] Spanish. So, we have a friend that that
[00:49:50] she
[00:49:51] um up with that actually moved to
[00:49:52] Missouri and we were neighbors in
[00:49:53] Missouri if you can believe that. So,
[00:49:55] she went from Honduras to St. Louis,
[00:49:57] Missouri. Elena went from Honduras to
[00:49:59] St. Louis, Missouri.
[00:50:00] >> Wow.
[00:50:00] >> And then we ended up being neighbors in
[00:50:01] the same neighborhood. And so we got to
[00:50:03] watch them and so she spoke Spanish,
[00:50:07] which is her native first language, and
[00:50:09] her husband spoke English.
[00:50:11] And it was so interesting watching the
[00:50:12] kids cuz I knew they knew that mom knows
[00:50:15] English and can speak English.
[00:50:17] >> Right.
[00:50:17] >> So, she talked to them in Spanish and
[00:50:19] they would answer in English. But if her
[00:50:22] mother or father was there who only
[00:50:24] spoke Spanish and they spoke Spanish to
[00:50:26] the kids, they would respond in Spanish.
[00:50:29] >> Spanish. Okay.
[00:50:30] That's funny how that works. Yeah.
[00:50:32] >> Cuz their preference is English cuz they
[00:50:34] grew up in the States.
[00:50:35] >> Mhm.
[00:50:36] >> But they they could, you know, they had
[00:50:38] to they would
[00:50:39] >> They'd do it.
[00:50:40] >> They would do it. Yeah, I just thought
[00:50:41] that was interesting.
[00:50:42] >> That is interesting.
[00:50:43] >> So, I don't know I don't know how much
[00:50:45] they speak now, but I mean their entire
[00:50:48] growing up years I had their mom and I'm
[00:50:51] sure they still understand it.
[00:50:52] >> Right.
[00:50:53] >> know if you
[00:50:54] The understanding I think is what goes
[00:50:55] last probably.
[00:50:56] >> I think so, too.
[00:50:57] >> Like the listening part.
[00:50:59] But the speaking I think goes pretty
[00:51:01] quick if you don't speak and practice
[00:51:02] speaking.
[00:51:03] >> Yeah, you have to practice for sure.
[00:51:04] >> But that's just really interesting. So,
[00:51:05] I guess keep me posted on that retreat.
[00:51:08] >> I
[00:51:08] >> Oh, I do have a question. It's like what
[00:51:10] kind of budget are you thinking you're
[00:51:11] going to need to do something like that?
[00:51:13] >> I haven't even figured that out yet.
[00:51:15] >> Okay.
[00:51:16] >> Honestly, because things have changed a
[00:51:18] lot, too, since I've been to Guatemala.
[00:51:20] So, I think once I go back again now
[00:51:23] >> So, you're going to have to go you're
[00:51:24] going to have to go.
[00:51:25] >> I have to go. I know. Just I have to.
[00:51:28] >> You're going to have to go to do a
[00:51:29] research trip to find out what things
[00:51:31] are going to how it's all going to work
[00:51:32] out.
[00:51:33] >> changed so much because when I used to
[00:51:35] go, it was like $500
[00:51:37] to stay in a waterfront villa
[00:51:40] overlooking the volcanoes with a
[00:51:42] fireplace and somebody who can bring
[00:51:44] fresh fish and fresh wood to your villa.
[00:51:48] Like amazing. It was like $500 for 5
[00:51:51] weeks.
[00:51:52] >> What?
[00:51:52] >> Yeah. It's not that anymore.
[00:51:54] >> Oh, wow.
[00:51:55] >> Yeah. Things have changed.
[00:51:56] >> know I was sticker shocked in Honduras.
[00:51:58] When I was in Honduras, what I spent the
[00:52:00] most money on wasn't the actual place.
[00:52:03] >> Mhm.
[00:52:03] >> It was the water and the electric cuz I
[00:52:05] I paid the water the actual So, we took
[00:52:07] a meter reading
[00:52:08] >> Mhm.
[00:52:09] >> on both the water and the electric
[00:52:10] before I on the initial day
[00:52:13] >> Right.
[00:52:13] >> and on the last day.
[00:52:14] >> Yeah. Mhm.
[00:52:15] >> We took another reading and wow. Cuz
[00:52:18] we're on an island.
[00:52:19] >> Okay.
[00:52:19] >> Roatán's an island. So, yeah, that cost
[00:52:22] more than the actual place.
[00:52:24] >> Yeah, the place and the food were
[00:52:25] negligible before. Now, the place is
[00:52:27] going to make a shift, but the food
[00:52:29] is usually not something to worry about.
[00:52:32] >> Well, I remember doing a lobster dinner
[00:52:34] and I paid for five or six lobster
[00:52:37] dinners and I had We all had drinks,
[00:52:41] dessert, and I think my bill was less
[00:52:43] than $300.
[00:52:45] >> Yeah, that sounds good.
[00:52:46] >> And this was at like a premium
[00:52:48] >> A nice place.
[00:52:49] >> A nice place. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:52:51] >> Well, if they have lobster, it probably
[00:52:52] is.
[00:52:53] >> Yeah. So, it was Yeah, I don't know if I
[00:52:55] I'm I'm curious, too, myself. Like We're
[00:52:57] actually going to Guatemala in October.
[00:52:59] >> What part?
[00:53:00] >> No, no. No, I'm sorry. They changed it.
[00:53:03] The venue wouldn't The venue I should
[00:53:06] connect you with them. Maybe you could
[00:53:07] do their wedding.
[00:53:08] >> Maybe I can help.
[00:53:09] >> in Mexico City.
[00:53:10] >> Okay.
[00:53:11] >> It was going to be in Guatemala, but the
[00:53:12] venue didn't They're having to pay so
[00:53:15] much extra money to go to I think 11:00.
[00:53:17] >> Okay.
[00:53:18] >> And then they really wanted to go to
[00:53:19] like midnight or one I mean, this is a
[00:53:22] This is a Spanish wedding. Like
[00:53:25] >> It's supposed to end at 4:00.
[00:53:26] >> Right. Exactly.
[00:53:27] >> Yeah.
[00:53:29] >> And the venue's like giving them
[00:53:30] trouble, you know, and they're finally
[00:53:32] they they just they were trying to pay
[00:53:33] more money to get it to stay open longer
[00:53:35] and they just were getting in a battles
[00:53:37] with that. So, they just
[00:53:38] >> a planner.
[00:53:39] >> Yeah, well, see, that's the thing. Yeah.
[00:53:41] So, maybe I'll I'll connect connect you.
[00:53:43] >> Nice. I'll give you my card.
[00:53:45] >> Yeah, for sure. For sure, definitely.
[00:53:47] Well, Trina, it was a pleasure to have
[00:53:50] you here. We're going to have to meet
[00:53:51] again to get details on this retreat
[00:53:54] that you're talking about.
[00:53:55] >> together as soon as I go there.
[00:53:57] >> Really? And that's going to be when?
[00:53:59] >> Um it should be in the end of April.
[00:54:02] >> Oh, so you're going soon?
[00:54:03] >> Mhm. I just have to wait until things
[00:54:04] settle down here.
[00:54:05] >> And then you like it you're thinking if
[00:54:07] you do it this year it'd be sometime in
[00:54:08] October?
[00:54:09] >> Yeah, I think it'll have to be fall.
[00:54:11] >> Okay.
[00:54:12] >> Probably not November because people
[00:54:13] start to think about holidays and stuff.
[00:54:15] >> Mhm.
[00:54:15] >> Uh in October people are already in
[00:54:17] holiday mode. So it'd have to be like
[00:54:19] August or September.
[00:54:21] >> August September.
[00:54:21] >> I'm thinking maybe August because people
[00:54:24] are still in vacation mode.
[00:54:25] >> Mhm.
[00:54:26] >> It's still summer and maybe they can
[00:54:27] figure out, you know, children and jobs
[00:54:30] and stuff like that.
[00:54:31] >> Right.
[00:54:32] >> Um you have to make it realistic for
[00:54:33] people to tap out.
[00:54:35] So
[00:54:35] >> Right.
[00:54:36] >> do something like the end of fall. I
[00:54:38] mean the end of summer. And then
[00:54:40] something for next year. So maybe I have
[00:54:43] a smaller test group, you know, this
[00:54:45] year and then something a little bit
[00:54:47] bigger for next year so people can plan.
[00:54:49] >> All right, so um let's get the specifics
[00:54:52] on Studio 1016.
[00:54:54] >> So the website is thestudio1016.com.
[00:54:57] >> Okay. And the plan the event planning?
[00:55:00] >> Is the planningcompany.net.
[00:55:02] >> .net. Okay. So if you needed any kind of
[00:55:04] event planned
[00:55:06] >> the planningcompany.net.
[00:55:08] >> is Trina is your planner.
[00:55:11] >> I'm your planner. Whether it's local or
[00:55:12] destination, we do it all from small to
[00:55:14] big.
[00:55:15] >> Small to big.
[00:55:16] >> Yeah, I just like to do memorable
[00:55:17] things, so.
[00:55:18] >> Reach out to Trina if you need any kind
[00:55:20] of event planning.
[00:55:21] >> Awesome. Thank you.
[00:55:22] >> connect again to talk about uh I thought
[00:55:25] we were going to go down the direction
[00:55:27] of
[00:55:27] >> I know, the studio.
[00:55:29] >> Studio, but we'll do that later. This
[00:55:31] was fun. I really enjoyed this. Thanks
[00:55:33] so much.
[00:55:33] >> Thank you.
[00:55:34] >> All right.
[00:55:34] >> Bye.
[00:55:35] >> your side.
[00:55:39] Fight on your side.